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	<title>levjoy dot com &#187; clay shirky</title>
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		<title>Saving Journalism, With or Without Newspapers</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Cohn &#8212; Spot.us founder, nice guy &#8212; is always a level-headed thinker when it comes to the eternal debate over What To Do About The Newspapers.     A recent post is no exception. 
The problem, as news pros like the Times&#8217; David Carr see it, is not the internet.  It&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Cohn &#8212; <a href="http://spot.us/">Spot.us</a> founder, nice guy &#8212; is always a level-headed thinker when it comes to the eternal debate over What To Do About The Newspapers.     A recent post is no exception. </p>
<p>The problem, as news pros like the Times&#8217; David Carr <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/business/media/09carr.html?_r=1&#038;ref=media">see it</a>, is not the internet.  It&#8217;s the irreversible expectation that news should be free.  </p>
<p>But David <a href="http://www.digidave.org/adventures_in_freelancing/2009/03/what-is-bad-for-newspapers-might-be-good-for-the-world.html">retorts</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t take sides in the old media vs. new media debate. I think we have LOTS to lose if newspapers go under. But I also think there is an inflated sense of self-worth in this article. Not because I believe citizen journalism can fully replace traditional newsrooms &#8211; but because of what the world has gained by making news content free online.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; putting content online for free has caused economic problems for newspapers &#8211; but it has made mankind better. </p></blockquote>
<p>The loss of newspapers around the country is often discussed through a kind of meta-narrative, in which the practitioners bemoan the downfall of their own industry.  While it&#8217;s truly upsetting to see newspapers &#8212; along with thousands of jobs &#8212; go belly up, we rarely hear about the increasing cultural impact of journalism, and how the public&#8217;s access to it has increased by an order of magnitude in the last ten years.  </p>
<p>Every few days I&#8217;m reminded of Clay Shirky&#8217;s post in Boing Boing from last year, in which he &#8220;<a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2008/12/08/the-newspaper-indust.html">called bullshit</a>&#8221; on Ron Rosenbaum&#8217;s complaint that online journalism came up out of nowhere and decapitated the traditional journalism business.   </p>
<blockquote><p>So I&#8217;m calling bullshit on the Rosenbaum thesis, because no one has been &#8220;caught up in this great upheaval.&#8221; Caught up? That makes it sound like a tornado. This change has been more like seeing oncoming glaciers ten miles off, and then deciding not to move.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s terrible that the owners and shareholders of our journalistic institutions have no choice but to lay off and close down.  But <strong>they saw this coming</strong>.  Why, after years and years of warnings and of watching the internet gain cultural preeminence over virtually every other medium, did they continually turn a blind eye to it?  </p>
<p>And why did they not realize that it&#8217;s not the medium of the newspaper that we care about, but the  democratic necessity of an honest and fair press?  </p>
<p>I suspect a little thing called a &#8220;profit motive&#8221; got in the way.  Now that reality has set in, maybe we can finally get to the task of saving journalism. </p>
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		<title>On Glaciers</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where&#8217;ve I been these last few days?  Most of you have probably (correctly) guessed that, in lieu of blogging, I&#8217;ve been, um, building a relationship with Arlo.
But one doesn&#8217;t preclude the other.  So here&#8217;s making a stab at a comeback, though I&#8217;ve been here for years.
The piece that got me off my butt: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="View 'Stylish boy' on Flickr.com" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/94755749@N00/3080916175"><img class="alignleft" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 8px;" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/3080916175_17d5dd4867_s.jpg" border="0" alt="Stylish boy" width="75" height="75" align="left" /></a>Where&#8217;ve I been these last few days?  Most of you have probably (correctly) guessed that, in lieu of blogging, I&#8217;ve been, um, building a relationship with Arlo.</p>
<p>But one doesn&#8217;t preclude the other.  So here&#8217;s making a stab at a comeback, though I&#8217;ve been here for years.</p>
<p>The piece that got me off my butt: a typically <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2008/12/08/the-newspaper-indust.html">clear and far-reaching post</a> from Clay Shirky on the death of the newspaper industry, and the complaints from some, including Ron Rosenbaum, that they&#8217;ve been blindsided by effacement of print media via new media.</p>
<blockquote><p>So I&#8217;m calling bullshit on the Rosenbaum thesis, because no one has been &#8220;caught up in this great upheaval.&#8221; Caught up? That makes it sound like a tornado. This change has been more like seeing oncoming glaciers ten miles off, and then deciding not to move.</p></blockquote>
<p>This one is making the rounds, of course, but I wanted to add my voice to the choir, and to intone the mighty creed: glad I work online.</p>
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